Dear Christian Apologist, Hitler Can't Help You

When Hitler is called in to support the Christian moral argument for God, the truth comes out: it's all simply projection.

HITLER: THE ATHEIST (Quiz Show)

Another Lying Hypocrite for Jebus

Steve F. (Fucktard?) left a "comment" at my post Climate Risks, his "comment" being nothing more than a copy/paste of one of his own posts, which I reproduce below for your amusement (under Steve's current policy which he states as follows: All of my blog posts may be reproduced as long as the content is not altered).

Steve Fucktard likes HIS rules to be followed you see, but ignores mine at MY blog. I have a clearly stated comment policy (created in part because of past "comments" by Steve) that states:

Spam "comments" are not allowed here and will be blocked or deleted. Also, do not leave deliberately off-topic comments, especially those promoting personal religious or political views (unless they pertain in some way to the post you're commenting on).

Clearly Steve thinks it's okay to violate my blog comment policy, which doesn't seem very moral of him, does it? But then Steve, like many "Christians" (in quotes because no one really believes Christian crap) believes not in objective moral values, but rather in the very subjective values of the lying Christian worldview, so it's okay to "spread the gospel" through lies, deceit and violations of basic ethics.

Oh, and I left a comment at Steve's blog stating he was banned from commenting at SE and the reason why. My comment hasn't shown up yet, because unlike my blog (with the exception of older posts) he has enabled comment moderation. In other words, Steve doesn't want people leaving comments at his blog that he doesn't approve of, yet he thinks it's fine to leave comments at someone else's blog that they don't approve of. Think my comment will show up at Steve's lying, moronic blog?



SELECTIVE "FAITH ONLY" SALVATION

FAITH ONLY BELIEVERS IN CHRIST DENY THAT THE NEW COVENANT PLAN OF SALVATION WAS NOT IN EFFECT UNTIL AFTER THE DEATH, BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS. (THAT WOULD BE ON THE DAY OF PENTECOST) IN ORDER TO BE SAVED WITHOUT BEING BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF THEIR SINS. (WATER BAPTISM) THEY PROCLAIM THAT THEY CAN BE SAVED LIKE THE THIEF ON THE CROSS. (LUKE 23:39-43)
IF MEN TODAY CAN BE SAVED LIKE, THE THIEF ON THE CROSS, THEN WHY CAN THEY NOT BE SAVED LIKE, THE RICH YOUNG RULER?


LUKE 18:18-22 A RULER QUESTIONED HIM, SAYING, "GOOD TEACHER, WHAT MUST I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?" 19 JESUS SAID TO HIM, "WHY DO YOU CALL ME GOOD? NO ONE IS GOOD EXCEPT GOD ALONE. 20 YOU KNOW THE COMMANDMENTS, 'DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, DO NOT MURDER, DO NOT STEAL, DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER.' 21 AND HE SAID, "ALL THESE THINGS I HAVE KEPT FROM MY YOUTH." 22 WHEN JESUS HEARD THIS, HE SAID TO HIM, "ONE THING YOU STILL LACK; SELL ALL THAT YOU POSSESS AND DISTRIBUTE IT TO THE POOR, AND YOU SHALL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; COME AND FOLLOW ME."

WHAT WAS THE RICH MAN'S PLAN OF SALVATION?

The rich man's question was what must I do to inherit eternal life?

1. Do not commit adultery.
2. Do not murder.
3. Do not steal.
4. Do not bear false witness.
5. Honor your father and mother.
6. Sell all your possessions and distribute them to the poor.

Jesus said do this and you shall have treasure in heaven.

Can men today be saved by, the rich man's plan of salvation? OF COURSE NOT!

Can men today be saved by, the thief on the cross plan of salvation? OF COURSE NOT!

The apostle Peter preached the first gospel sermon under the New Covenant on the Day of Pentecost.

THE NEW COVENANT PLANT OF SALVATION
1. FAITH: John 3:16
2. REPENTANCE: Acts 2:38
3. CONFESSION Romans 10:9-10
4. WATER BAPTISM: Acts 2:38, 1 Peter 3:21, Mark 16:16, Acts 22:16, Galatians 3:27, Romans 6:1-7, Colossians 2:12-13.

(All Scripture quotes from: NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE)
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YOU ARE INVITED TO FOLLOW MY BLOG.

Oh, after the invite, Steve left his blog URL, which I have decided to delete, although if you're not a moron, you know how to find it.

Can a Christian Be an Anarchist?

Christian Girl Faces Death Penalty For 'Blasphemy' In Pakistan

"Last weekend's arrest and imprisonment of Rimsha Masih, an 11-year old Christian girl, by Pakistani authorities in the nation's capital, Islamabad, on charges of blasphemy, is deeply alarming. The girl, whose mental stability is doubtful, will certainly face death sentence according to the Pakistani law if she is found guilty of disrespecting or burning Islamic text. While the poor terrified girl awaits appearance before a court by the end of this month, President Asif Ali Zardari has ordered an immediate inquiry into this perturbing episode. The president's intervention is not likely to serve as a breakthrough nor is it going to lead to the swift release of the girl..."

According to the Associated Press, a group of 500 to 600 people had surrounded her house in Islamabad seeking action against the alleged blasphemer. "They were very emotional, angry," AP quoted a local police officer saying, "and they might have harmed her if we had not quickly reacted." It is unfortunate that the Pakistani law and officials have also turned against Ms. Masih by imprisoning her instead of protecting her from extremists. The little girl, who barely understands the dirty politics of religion and communalism, must be undergoing immeasurable distress and trauma. Media reports say hundreds of Christian families who lived in Ms. Masih's town have also fled their homes fearing assaults by Muslim mobs. They have not agreed to return since they left some days ago as they still feel insecure. Even President Zardari cannot do much against the country's infamous blasphemy law.-Who Benefits From Pakistan's Blasphemy Law?

Classic SE: Mock God and Die!

I may occasionally post this new "series" (where I'll link to an old post, rather than repost or redate it), maybe in the hope that something interesting will develop in the comments, but I'm not promising anything. Be sure to check out the psycho comments from the fundies in the original post. If you want to discuss this further (fundy or not) just start a new comment thread on this post.


Mock God and Die!

Atheist Talks with a Preacher

Insert Foot Into Mouth Mr. Robertson

Right now, I have a fellow church-goer whose husband is in the last stages of Alzheimer's disease.  He developed when he was in his 50s, which was unusual and really sad to boot.  His wife has been by his side the entire time helping to cope with this problem.  In fact, it was not until recently that she tried to send him away to get better care.  Right now, though, he is in Hospice care as he is unable to eat or drink.  They keep him sedated because he has become violent in these final stages.

Needless to say, it sad to see this man deteriorate as he has.  He used to make pancakes for the Christmas morning service and served on Vestry.  He was able to do a lot until his Alzheimer’s set in.  Then he had to helped with communion as he was not sure what to do himself.

Then yesterday I heard about Pat Robertson’s unchristian comments about divorcing Alzheimer’s afflicted spouses.  I just shook my head at the sheer absurdity of the statement.  To call such as disease the “walking death” is a little extreme in my opinion.  For the most part, this fellow churchgoer was still taking communion up until a month ago.  I went to his house to help administer it and he still remembered the Lord’s Prayer.  As far as I am concerned, he may have been losing his mind, but he still remembered enough.  There was no death in this.

As to the question of divorce, I believe that marriage is sacred and difficult.  To literally live with another human being for your entire lifetime is a lot to ask someone.  Human beings are naturally prideful and selfish, so even in marital relationships you can see the attitude of “what’s in it for me?” rather than an attitude of “what can I do for you?”  Now, I am not saying that for a person to have a set of reasonable expectations from his or her spouse is wrong, but you have to be willing to meet the expectations of your spouse as well.

For those who are married and find a spouse has been afflicted with Alzheimer’s disease, I have my deepest sympathies.  It is difficult to deal with someone who probably will forget who you are someday, especially someone who is probably your best friend and someone with whom you have lived with for so long.  I cannot imagine having to deal with all the various problems with my wife should she ever come down with that disease or something like it.  But I also cannot imagine divorcing her because of it.

This is not to say that the thought would not cross my mind several times.  I am sure that I would seek the easy way out.  I do believe that there are legitimate reasons for divorce because our hearts are hard.  At the same time, I do not believe that divorcing a person who is terminally ill, which you are if you have Alzheimer’s, is one of those legitimate reasons.  It is not an act of love, but of pure hedonistic selfishness.  And seriously, do you really think you could start a new relationship with someone if they knew that you divorced your terminally ill spouse (Newt Gringrich)?

While I really do not care what people ultimately do in such situations, Christian or otherwise, I do condemn Pat Robertson for his statements largely because he should know better.  But I think the years of being famous within many Christian circles has led to a level of pride I hope to never come in contact with.  What he said borders on justifying euthanasia and Christians would do well to shake the dust off their feet of him and move on.  I personally have never really found any Christian leader to be particularly inspiring myself, rugged individualist that I am, and I recommend that others do likewise.

The Statue of Liberty Is a "Demonic Idol"?

John Benefiel, an endorser of Gov. Rick Perry's "The Response" prayer rally, says that the Statue of Liberty is a demonic idol.

Do Christians Now Have A Perfect Opportunity To Question Their Faith?

So, the rapture prediction of Harold Camping fizzled out yesterday as the hours passed and it became clear, as John Lennon put it, that "there ain't no Jesus gonna come from the sky."-(I Found Out, Lyrics)

Some faithful followers of "Brother Camping" were still keeping their hopes up as the hours passed with nothing even remotely Judgment Dayish being reported by the news channels, stating God was just testing them and they still had until midnight to get their new Superman-like eternal bodies that would allow them to ascend into the air to meet the Lord and be with Jesus forever, while, presumably, they watched in safety and bliss while the earth was devastated by the disasters of God's wrathful judgment, until, oh, along about October, the planet they had called home for all of their lives was completely destroyed and replaced by a new heavens and a new earth (or something like that).


Is this now the perfect opportunity for some of those people, and Christians in general, to rethink things and consider the possibility that the whole Christianity thing is one gigantic, 2000 year-old fraud?

Plenty of Christians were insisting Camping and his followers were "not True Christians" or otherwise "fringe". It wasn't because Camping and friends believed in The Rapture, but because they predicted a specific date for The Rapture, and The Bible says nobody can know the day or time, blah blah blah. Some Christians were getting mighty defensive because the 5/21 crowd was being mocked, and nutty Christian beliefs in general were getting mocked along with them. I can't help but wonder why it is that believing in The Rapture is supposed to be mainstream/normal but merely predicting a specific date for the event makes one cross the line into the lunatic fringe. It's sort of the way one guy saying "invisible green men told me to run naked through town" gets one a trip to the mental hospital while "god told me to pray to a captive crowd at the high school graduation" gets a girl a standing ovation.-"Buffy" (not the Vampire Slayer, I'm assuming) in a comment at the Atheist Revolution post, Failed Rapture Gives Christians Perfect Opportunity to Question Their Faith

From the post itself:

Even before May 21st ran its course without anyone being raptured, most Christians thought that Harold Camping was a nut. They were right to do so. But it wasn't Camping's conviction that he could predict the date and time of the rapture that made him a nut; it was his belief in the rapture itself. And because this is a belief most Christians seem to share, this is the lesson Christians should take from yesterday: rapture-belief is nutty, regardless of when one thinks it will happen.

Do you agree or disagree? I should point out that the majority of Christians around the world don't believe in "the rapture", a relatively late idea introduced into Protestant, fundamentalist style Christianity only in the 19th century. Of course, the second coming of Christ is itself a central belief of all Christians (or should be) that has failed to see fulfillment for the nearly 2000 years since Jesus walked the earth.

The Sunday Jesus: May 21 Coincidence?

My milk and the world are both expiring on the same day! Coincidence? I think not!

Countdown to Judgment Day with Harold Camping





Continue the countdown to the very end at EzekielThirtyThree3's YouTube channel


And if the end doesn't come? Is the following true or a fake?

Julian Assange, in his latest release of "Wikileaks" downloaded the credit card files of Camping's next trip booked on "Expedia" to St Bart's along with flight tickets, hotel, and restaurant reservations, for Saturday, May 28, 2011.

I personally think Camping really believes his own bullshit (I've been following the guy for years), but it's far easier to "believe" something when you aren't immediately confronted with its falsification. I think that's why so many Christians (aside from their supposed Biblical reasons, such as the words of Jesus that no man knows the day or hour) prefer the vague "He's coming soon" to anything definite. Is Camping having any doubts about May 21? I'm thinking he was hoping he'd be dead by now, because he's 89 and about to turn 90 years old. Most people would safely assume they wouldn't live that long, and that was probably Harold Camping's assumption, too. I can't wait to hear what he says on May 22nd. He hasn't really given himself an out, saying in the first video that there is NO CHANCE God will change his mind about the date. Also, Camping said this:

God has given sooo much information in the Bible about this, and so many proofs, and so many signs, that we know it is absolutely going to happen without any question at all. There’s nothing in the Bible that God has ever prophesied — there’s many things that he prophesied would happen and they always have happened — but there’s nothing in the Bible that holds a candle to the amount of information to this tremendous truth of the end of the world. I would be absolutely in rebellion against God if I thought anything other than it is absolutely going to happen without any question.-A Conversation With Harold Camping, Prophesier of Judgment Day

Recent News Story on the Harold Camping Rapture Lunacy

Christians Gone Wild!

The Rapture and The Tribulation

..."Debunked" by someone just as delusional as the rapture nuts. Did you know that the epiphaneia and parousia are to occur at the SAME time? Well, you will after watching these videos (I think).

Pole Dancing for Jesus

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Offensive, delusional, and ignorant superstitionist

An old favorite from The Atheist Experience where a delusional, arrogant, pushy, bitchy, close minded, offensive, dangerous and hateful bible thumper proves why we know the Abrahamic religions are extremely dangerous.

American Christians Pray "Lead Us Into Temptation"

Every Sunday at church, Christians pray the Lord’s Prayer, which includes the following exhortation: “Lead us not into temptation.”

During the other six days of the week, many Christians continue to support the war on drugs, a federal program that continues to lead untold numbers of people, especially young people, into temptation and down the road to destruction.

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The next time you hear a Christian expressing support for the drug war, ask him why he would support any program that leads people into temptation and destroys their lives, without any positive benefit to anyone but drug dealers, drug agents, and public officials.

Jacob Hornberger: The Drug War Leads Us into Temptation


It doesn't make sense on any level for Christians to support the insane and unconstitutional War on (some) Drugs. Is it because drugs are "bad" and "sinful"? So are a great many other things that some Christians oppose, like sex outside marriage, homosexuality, alcohol use, smoking and Harry Potter, but few Christians openly advocate for the banning of those. They confuse allowing people to make their own decision on certain behavior with an endorsement of that behavior, but that's as absurd as saying an atheist supports church attendance because he is against outlawing organized religion.

What's more, most of these drug prohibition supporting Christians call themselves "conservative" and believers in state's rights and the Constitution, so I'd like to ask any of these phony "conservatives" to point out where in the U.S. Constitution the Federal Government is given the authority to conduct such a "war" (and be consistent in their answer, because if they come up with some constitutional justification it will have implications for Federal involvement in all those other things these "conservatives" oppose on supposed constitutional grounds, like "Obamacare").

Is Christianity Under Attack in America?

This sounds mighty familiar... oh yeah, I recently posted something similar. Since that one was about Christians in Britain, though, this one gives America's persecuted Christians equal time to whine.





America's War on Christianity

The description at Amazon says:
There is a war raging in America. On one side sits religion and freedom. On the other side, atheism and Statism.

Hmm, why are most American Christians outright statists then? I don't mean to say that they are minarchists who believe that some minimal government is necessary. You could say that of some libertarians who nevertheless consider themselves anti-statists, but not most Christians, who believe in going to Big Daddy Government to impose their vision of society on everyone. Do they oppose the drug war? No! The wars of U.S. aggression? No! Draconian anti-abortion laws? No!  Who is this guy kidding? Maybe abortion is part of the atheist agenda? Drugs too? Anti-war protests also an atheist conspiracy? Does this nut even know what statism is? Hey, if he's really an anti-statist, God bless him, but in that case he should start first among his fellow believers, because on the issue of the evils of statism, they are the real lost sheep.

Are Christians the New Persecuted?

December 2010 on Channel 4 with Nicky Rawlins, Bishop Nick Baines, Gary MacFarlane, Peter Tatchell, Andrea Williams, Bishop Michael Nazir Ali, and Anjem Choudary.

The rise of aggressive secularism and radical Islam has left many Christians feeling under attack and unable to express their faith. Do Christians really face abuse and discrimination? Or are they just struggling to adjust to multi-faith Britain?

Christian Immoral Systems v. Biology

The tired old argument “atheists” have no basis for moral behavior.

“Where do you get your morals?” - the same place every other biological living creature will get the respective moral behavior for it’s species.

How Foreign Muslims View America

I recently read A Flame on the Front Line by John Weaver a Christian missionary in Afghanistan.  The book primarily focuses on his spiritual journey from a rebellious youth to a man devoted to God and to an obscure third-world country that nobody cared about until about 9:00 AM on September 11, 2001.  John Weaver worked with the aid relief for the refugees fleeing the Taliban back before the US invasion.  When the towers fell (ironically it was also shortly after the Taliban had assassinated their biggest rival warlord), John decided to stay among the Afghans and continue to aid and comfort them.  The details of this story are found in his other book, Inside Afghanistan.

Anyway, toward the end of the book he brought up an interesting observation.  He outlined five points on how the Muslims he met there view Americans:

1. All Americans or Westerners are Christians but not too serious about holiness, morality, or matters of faith.  This observation on the part of Muslims is not really that far off.  According to a study done by the Barna Group, 66% of those who claim to be Christian are merely casual Christians, or people who don’t take their faith all that seriously.  That’s nearly 2/3 of Americans.  Meanwhile, there are almost as many dedicated irreligious people (Barna dubs them skeptics) as there are dedicated Christians (about 11% are skeptics and 16% are Captive Christians).  So while it may be a misconception to say that all Americans are Christians who don’t care for their faith, it certainly is a legitimate generalization.
2. Most Christians are immoral, because premarital sex, adultery, divorce, pornography, murder, and abortion occur everyday in the West and in America.  Given the first point, it isn’t a far stretch to make the second point.  It is largely true that Christians are hypocrites, especially if the majority of them are casual about their faith.  When James wrote, “I will show you my faith by my works”, he didn’t mean that works build faith, but that those whose heart is right with God will do good works for His sake.  In effect, a good way to judge a person’s heart is through their actions and not through their words.  Given the works of many Americans, our faith is non-existent.
3. Since Christians claim to be forgiven in Christ or “saved by God’s grace,” we think we think we are free to live as we wish.  This point seems to build upon the last two, but it also can go much deeper.  Here I find myself tempted to write pages on predestination versus free will because this point ties into that.  If Christians believe that they are predestined to be saved, then the logical conclusion is very much the attitude expressed here.  By our behavior, you would think that many believe that.  Catholics go to confessional all the time to absolve themselves of their sins but do they make any effort to truly repent?  And how many altar calls does a Baptist have to make before he or she actually realizes that we are not free to live as we wish but that we are free to live as God wishes.
4. Personal disciplines like daily worship, bowing in prayer, or fasting from food are not important.  Yes, this one is also a legitimate criticism of Christians everywhere in the West.  Again, it goes back to that whole faith and works observation where we do not make the effort to seek out God through worship, prayer, and fasting.  When we worship, many Christians are simply looking for an emotional high.  When we pray, we demand that God bless us and bend over for our every selfish whim.  And fasting is so outdated among many Christian circles.  Pride is more damaging than most Christians realize.
5. Christians are idolatrous because they worship three gods: God the Father, Mary the Mother, and Jesus the Son, although some believe that the green god of money is part of the trinity.  This last observation is really just a misconception of the Holy Trinity, although I will freely admit that many Christians are just as idolatrous as any other religion.  If you are unwilling to give up something in your life for God, that is idolatry, pure and simple.  This does not mean you have to give it up, this merely means that whatever that thing is, be it your family, your friends, your possessions, your prestige, etc., you have to be willing to lose it all for His sake.  Don’t worry, though, it is very rare for God to demand things of that magnitude from us unless you’re a prophet.

I actually appreciate the criticism coming from the Muslims who live in foreign lands.  To be honest, I agree with them for the most part and I firmly believe that Christians are their own worst enemies in the West.  Perhaps it’s high time Christians, myself included, decided to not focus so much on everyone else but rather themselves.  There’s a lot of crap going on in the Christian world right now and I see little effort to change it all.

Sadly, if a bunch of third-world Muslims can see it, how blind are we that we can’t?